tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post1053342409729759251..comments2024-03-26T11:07:03.496-04:00Comments on Ed Notes Online: Just whose rights do these civil rights groups think they are protecting? -- What the UFT should be asking instead of excusing their support for testing ed notes onlinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-49499092218339687942015-05-15T22:00:30.836-04:002015-05-15T22:00:30.836-04:00Paula & John your absence from this discourse...Paula & John your absence from this discourse is evidence that you cannot discuss facts. You just repeat the company line and move on. I challenged you to produce something, anything to refute me, alas you have not.<br /><br />A sad but predictable result of people who willingly do not think. Dr_Druhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16939731458157288791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-8775056824855196402015-05-13T22:10:46.089-04:002015-05-13T22:10:46.089-04:00Sorry 900,000,000 or 9 hundred million, but my poi...Sorry 900,000,000 or 9 hundred million, but my point still stands and has not been refuted by Paula or John. I would think they would easily be able to answer if they know the total budget for the DOE or if RTTT money is in addition to the regular budget NOT in lieu of the regular budget.<br /><br />I guess this passes for debate among the party faithful.Dr_Druhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16939731458157288791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-8254004837972676312015-05-13T00:45:01.744-04:002015-05-13T00:45:01.744-04:00Paula
Without knowing you (unless you are the Paul...Paula<br />Without knowing you (unless you are the Paula Washington who was in one of my 6th grade classes) I like you. You seem like a dedicated unionist. But to see how you parrot the exact positions pushed down from the top is disappointing. It reminds me of how Bush sold the Iraq war -- selected intel and distorted facts. (The UFT I believe was mum on this too).<br />What bothers me is if Mulgrew/Randi reverse themselves on any issue, you will too. Yes, be active, but not as a rubber stamp. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-69474862782718942015-05-13T00:11:26.613-04:002015-05-13T00:11:26.613-04:00Also, please correct me if I am wrong, Race To The...Also, please correct me if I am wrong, Race To The Top money was in addition to the budget and was not supposed to be used in lieu of regular funding. Feel free to provide documentation to refute.Dr_Druhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16939731458157288791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-248481121065476222015-05-12T19:22:07.280-04:002015-05-12T19:22:07.280-04:00Apparently no one here is a math teacher. A simple...Apparently no one here is a math teacher. A simple question for those of us who lament the loss of 9,000,000 dollars. Nine million dollars is what percent of the NYC DOE Budget?<br /><br />Please do not tell us about the loss of money until you know how much it actually is. If you do know the percentage and chose not to tell, you and the rest of the party apparatus are being intellectually dishonest. This is a terrible thing, especially for someone who claims to be a teacher. If you do not know, you are intellectually lazy. Either way, a terrible trait for a teacher and union member, but a fine trait for a party apparatchik.<br /><br />Norm is correct, “Does Mulgrew oppose high stakes testing or just not support it?” Insert Michael Bloomberg or Andrew Cuomo or any other issue there and you will find your answer.<br /><br />I am tired of siding with politicians who do not side with us and against our natural allies; actual parents and grass roots organizations.<br /><br />Honestly, we need to dare politicians to pull money out of school budgets because of students opting out. <br /><br />Jeff ADr_Druhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16939731458157288791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-47967860523107263332015-05-12T11:07:29.195-04:002015-05-12T11:07:29.195-04:00Oh Paula - here you go again with the Unity line. ...Oh Paula - here you go again with the Unity line. Does Mulgrew oppose high stakes testing or just not support it? In fact he does support it by his actions. I heard the line and you did too -- that we don't want to offend the civil rights leaders -- I don't know why you hear stuff selectively. And that 59 million threat -- 85% opted out in some schools - show me the money that they lost -- show me any money lost so far. And first figure out what that 59 mill goes for -- even if they took it away - which they won't if faced with a massive revolt on testing.ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-39643922566460910412015-05-12T09:23:06.863-04:002015-05-12T09:23:06.863-04:00I don't know where the commenter above got his...I don't know where the commenter above got his information, but at the last UFT Delegate Assembly President Mulgrew made it abundantly clear that the UFT does not support high stakes standardized testing. Why would we? The tests are poorly made and do not suport instruction, but are being used as a cudgel to beat up teachers. However, the issue is more complicated than the article suggests. NYSUT is on record as advocating that parents opt their children out across the board. Were New York City have more than 10% of its students opt out we would stand to lose $9,000,000 in federal aide. This is not chump change. Smaller NYS school districts might be able to make up the shortfall. We could not. The loss of money would harm our city's school children. This does not mean that we have given up on getting the full measure of CFE money we have already won from the state, or that we do not want to change the rules on standardized testing and on teacher evaluation. These are separate and ongoing fights. That is why we are in favor of informing parents and letting them make their own decisions about whether or not to opt their children out.Docwashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08925857414402582836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-51030184337602392052015-05-12T07:40:45.985-04:002015-05-12T07:40:45.985-04:00Yes the UFT has aligned itself with this group - t...Yes the UFT has aligned itself with this group - the leadership has said that they are cautious on opt out so as not to offend "civil Rights" leaders who support testing. Of course the UFT and these groups have something in common -- money from Bill Gates.<br />It is clear that you are pushing the UFT and DOE line that money can be lost -- so far empty threats -- and just watch what happens politically if they try to take money away - the left and right uprising.<br />UFT is playing footsie with the issue. Opt out right now is the only defense teachers and parents have against oppressive ed deform policies.ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-49616500699992612802015-05-12T07:24:50.858-04:002015-05-12T07:24:50.858-04:00The UFT hasn't aligned themselves with this gr...The UFT hasn't aligned themselves with this group. If a parent wishes to opt their child out thats their decision not the UFT's to make. And we have to becareful with the opt out movement cause if the number of students in a school falls below a certain percentage if students taking the test that school will lose its title 1,2and 3 funding. So if your going to attempt a movement that will potentially costthe schools of NY something like 900million dollars I am extremely happy that someone didnt just go along with it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17099717777346676799noreply@blogger.com