tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post5708226057232097108..comments2024-03-26T11:07:03.496-04:00Comments on Ed Notes Online: NY Times Attack on Quinn Part of Plan to Make Lhota Mayor by Making Thompson Dem Choice?ed notes onlinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-9131325690710754962013-03-28T13:13:56.537-04:002013-03-28T13:13:56.537-04:00I agree that the ruling class of this city can liv...I agree that the ruling class of this city can live with Quinn just as they could have lived with Thompson but just as they preferred Giuliani and Bloomberg they certainly prefer Lhota. The very same people behind those two campaigns are now behind Lhota's and neither Giuliani or Bloomberg required a democratic third party candidate to run in order to win the election. It just took lots of cash and a compliant media and most important working class conservative democrats - all of this is beginning to coalesce. The piece in the NYTimes today is the beginning of the campaign to get working class democrats over to Lhota - cultural / religious politics is the surest way to do it and is absolutely the key ingredient for him to be able to win just as they were the key for both Bloomberg and Giuliani.<br /><br /> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/nyregion/for-lhota-mayoral-hopeful-who-lost-fight-to-remove-art-no-regrets.html?hp<br /><br />Ira<br /><br />Ira Goldfinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-10029961278955390372013-03-27T16:18:20.534-04:002013-03-27T16:18:20.534-04:00Not me but New Action and some ICE people trashed ...Not me but New Action and some ICE people trashed the UFT over that but I agree that the UFT should have endorsed him. <br />The diff is that New Action has actually endorsed and pushed this loser while James at ICE said support him as last resort. <br />Remember Paul Egan we can only move the needle 2 points? Why not endorse anyone but Bloomberg?<br />But what book of sophistry are you using here when UFT has supported the worst people in the world without blinking. In this case where anyone but Bloomberg was good for us you punted? Really pathetic excuse. You suddenly got religion?<br />Of course you should have gone to the wall for him -- maybe 100 less closed schools and less charter co-locos. But then again maybe having Bloomberg support the UFT charters is the most important thing.ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-9456390203384052152013-03-27T16:05:26.263-04:002013-03-27T16:05:26.263-04:00Isn't this the Bill Thompson that you Norm and...Isn't this the Bill Thompson that you Norm and many leading MORE guys regularly trash the UFT over not having supported in the last Mayoral election? You trashed the UFT for 1) not having a functioning crystal ball and knowing that there would be a small gap separating the candidates that the union might have been able to make up 2) not throwing in a huge push supporting Thompson to get Bloomberg out. Yet now you make out, through your comments and the articles you reference that Thompson is (was) in cahoots with Bloomberg, a stalking horse, his golf partner, didn't oppose him in his offical capacity, whatever, certainly not the guy the UFT could have looked to to make positive changes, recognize that his campaign was purposely inept and was really looking to 2013. Are you revoking your criticism of the UFT in not endorsing Thompsone and going to the wall for him in 2009? You seem to be be validating all the reasons they had for not supporting him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-34687125568403940342013-03-27T11:04:54.823-04:002013-03-27T11:04:54.823-04:00As I've written before, and as the history sub...As I've written before, and as the history substantiates, Thompson is a Potemkin candidate, there for show and to divert votes among Democratic primary voters.<br /><br />The only thing we know for sure is that the city's - indeed the global - Overclass wants NYC to remain firmly in the grip of Neoliberalism. While Quinn is brittle and rightfully hated by many, she is a reliable broker of their wants. Llota might be preferable, but seems to have a weak chance, unless one of the losing Dems goes third party to split the November vote.<br /><br />As RBE says, Liu has been destroyed by Bloomberg's ability to manipulate law enforcement, and the ruling class, like the rest of us, may not be happy with its choices.<br /><br />All the more reason to organize outside the electoral system, and ideally make them come to us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-14884217423178895192013-03-27T10:49:08.652-04:002013-03-27T10:49:08.652-04:00Food for thought. I don't see any Dem out ther...Food for thought. I don't see any Dem out there that they feel comfortable with. Bloomberg is a sexist swine and they covered it up for him. In a 4 way race -- imagine Quinn not getting the conservative anti-gay vote -- and Thompson picking up the black vote -- a 2 way runoff like in 2001 -- and Thompson could win. Then play the same weak role again. The Times has run Lhota puff pieces and Thompson funders from what I remember are suspect of conspiracy.ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-82229088369661518202013-03-27T10:22:27.258-04:002013-03-27T10:22:27.258-04:00Sorry to self link, but the link you were looking ...Sorry to self link, but the link you were looking for regarding Thompson's fishy campaign donations is here:<br /><br />http://perdidostreetschool.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-couple-of-good-reasons-not-to-support.html<br /><br />I think you're wrong about the agenda behind the Quinn article, btw. <br /><br />She has MANY enemies, people literally joined the Chelsea Democratic Club recently just to oppose that group's eventual endorsement of her candidacy, she has a dedicated cadre of protesters who follow her around wherever she goes to protest her, the people she works with hate her. <br /><br />It's not a surprise that this kind of story emerged, nor is it a surprise that they put it on the front page. They did a similar piece about what a jerk Weiner was to his staff a few years back before PenisGate.<br /><br />Also, this is when the oppo research gets dumped - a few months before the summer when a damaging meme can start to harden around a candidate. <br /><br />Clearly the meme here is that Quinn is temperamentally unfit to be mayor.<br /><br />I think that meme is right.<br /><br />I don't think Lhota has a chance to win, even if Thompson is the candidate against him.<br /><br />He's an even bigger swine than Quinn and I have a hard time seeing him run an entire mayoral campaign without having a couple of public meltdowns/ferret moments.<br /><br />I agree that the powers that be are not happy with Quinn as Bloomberg's successor and want somebody more amenable to them like Lhota.<br /><br />I don't doubt that Thompson is in the race to do damage for the corporatists.<br /><br />But it is possible de Blasio could get the most out of a Quinn implosion, not Thompson.<br /><br />de Blasio is polling higher than Thompson in the last Marist and Quinnipiac polls, so don't assume Thompson is the only "real" opponent for Quinn in the Democratic primary.<br /><br />That doesn't mean de Blasio isn't damaging to progressive values in his own way, btw.<br /><br />The guy they REALLY fear (Liu) they already destroyed.<br /><br />I think the powers that be figure they will have to deal with four years of somebody less than Bloombergian or Rudyesque (but still malleable) before they can engineer another corporate takeover of City Hall.<br /><br />That's my two cents.reality-based educatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01712885202661371924noreply@blogger.com