tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post1004740924784594202..comments2024-03-26T11:07:03.496-04:00Comments on Ed Notes Online: I Come Neither to Bury Nor to Praise Liberalism - Norm in The WAVEed notes onlinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-51376079174191862492017-02-17T20:13:09.748-05:002017-02-17T20:13:09.748-05:00We need a change v. Status quo
Bernie, Trump and l...We need a change v. Status quo<br />Bernie, Trump and lower voter turnout are all "we need a change" (Unfortunately, not the change I was hoping for.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-88924335194460065852017-02-17T14:43:44.698-05:002017-02-17T14:43:44.698-05:00These labels are outdated. There is one crucial qu...These labels are outdated. There is one crucial question today. Do you favor a secular representative democracy, or do you prefer a dictatorship of racist, xenophobic, religious fascists?<br /><br />Abigail ShureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-86733842450746908892017-02-17T12:29:53.552-05:002017-02-17T12:29:53.552-05:00What I'm ultimately aiming at is to unwrap the...What I'm ultimately aiming at is to unwrap the confusion. Anti trump are attacked as libs. We attack neoliberals. Everyone is talking a different language. I am left of center SD. What is the center? Where do neoliberals line up with neocons? Where is the intersection of trumpers and Bernies? We may need new labels. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-68948368018368034722017-02-17T10:53:53.910-05:002017-02-17T10:53:53.910-05:00Liberalism (and not radicalism or socialism or ana...Liberalism (and not radicalism or socialism or anarchism or conservatism) is worthy neither of burial or praise in itself. I tend to prefer my politics to be "center-left or left-center" but what's a mere label among friends?<br /><br />All of these labels are worthy of praise or censure depending on the historical circumstances in which they find themselves and which cause them to be constantly redefined, both by their partisans and in relation to each other as the social and political framework within which people act changes around them. I recognize that many folks will find themselves very uncomfortable with a relativistic view of their political self-definition, most people much preferring the absolutist sort.<br /><br />I accept the usefulness of the neologism, "neoliberal", but only when it's used as tool or framework for explicating a set of policies and political actors and not as a term of opprobrium to clobber people over the head with whom one differs, on the political continuum, usually by a margin that would barely be noticeable except to the person doing the clobbering. <br /><br />At the risk of being labeled a much more heinous thing than a "liberal" or a "radical"--that of being "pragmatic"--I am more comfortable with how political philosophies and strategies actually work to accomplish the objectives of the individual or collective actor/s.<br /><br />Finally, I'm always amused at how come "radicals" and some "liberals" find more to despise in each other than they do in their ostensible, self-described real opponents--"conservatives" or "fascists" of either the actual, crypto- or pseudo- sort. As a "center-left" (or "left-center") sort of guy, I often wonder who would first be put up against the wall in a left wing revolution: me or the "fascist" of one sort or another. Of course, our good friends in a right wing revolution would never be nearly as scrupulous about the priority for their bullets.<br /><br />I hope never to find out but I have my suspicions....Harris Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-37382227363691483532017-02-17T09:38:00.707-05:002017-02-17T09:38:00.707-05:00In its current incarnation, liberalism needs a sta...In its current incarnation, liberalism needs a stake driven through its heart, its mouth stuffed with garlic and a crucifix placed on its chest before it's buried.Michael Fiorillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02120229151713643775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-4266690983748232912017-02-17T09:09:38.590-05:002017-02-17T09:09:38.590-05:00I feel like the terms liberals and conservative ha...I feel like the terms liberals and conservative have become muddled in recent years where even I, a Social Studies teacher, am not 100% sure they mean what they are supposed to mean anymore. Even more confusing for the kids. It's a topic worthy of exploration.Highly Effective King Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14653858157695141774noreply@blogger.com