tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post1518796223563349122..comments2024-03-26T11:07:03.496-04:00Comments on Ed Notes Online: The Left in the USA and the UFT - Part 1ed notes onlinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-51315176428005799462019-01-30T19:12:01.657-05:002019-01-30T19:12:01.657-05:00Guatemala El Salvador. Honduras. Failures of capit...Guatemala El Salvador. Honduras. Failures of capitalism ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-50201977421694706272019-01-27T05:01:59.165-05:002019-01-27T05:01:59.165-05:00Great comment. Nuanced and balanced. Most of the l...Great comment. Nuanced and balanced. Most of the left despises Stalin for what he did to ruin such potential - mostly the wiping out of so many people - the Old Bolsheviks - I think my uncle was one of them purged in 37. As for the cold war I think the feeling is that Churchill's and others wanting to wipe them out made them have a buffer from Easter Europe - and it took 40 years to come apart. Ultimately if you compare Putin's Russia and Stalin's Russia -- I wonder over the long run. I think Lenin's vision is interesting to study. It still drives many people on the left.ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-16291536336173665222019-01-27T00:09:46.831-05:002019-01-27T00:09:46.831-05:00Interesting comments. Stalin is virtually unknown ...Interesting comments. Stalin is virtually unknown to most Americans, while Hitler is the devil. They are co-monarchs in that realm. As for Churchill believed the same things Hitler did, from eugenics to his election slogan 'Keep Britan White'. He was also responsible for a genocide, many atrocities and public executions of those that rebelled against British rule, that are now national heroes in their respective countries. The only person that comes close to Churchill's mentality now is Trump. People love to compare him to Hitler but he's much closer to Churchill in every way. As for Cuba if you don't have anything, Cuba is a paradise. No one starves and everyone is educated. The problem is once you have that, you want more - that's where the Cubans are right now. Cuba for me is both upsetting to my American psyche and fascinating intellectually - as a social experiment that has largely succeeded, but now is threatened by its own success. Castro and Cuba have set up symbols throughout Latin America to lead those nations that strive to survive towards the Cuban way. Ingenious plan culminating during Castro's elongated wake. Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-12908293573811294242019-01-26T08:25:51.029-05:002019-01-26T08:25:51.029-05:00There’s a recent book on Orwell and Churchill wort...There’s a recent book on Orwell and Churchill worth reading. Orwell joined an anti Stalin trot brigade and the Stalinists attacked them viewing them as the bigger enemy. At that point I believe he turned hard against Stalinism which is a particular brand - animal farm is a rejection of the Soviet model of control. He was a freer spirit but still a socialist of an ideal type. Democracy was an essential but can it be compatible ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-45411078388997962322019-01-26T08:07:01.578-05:002019-01-26T08:07:01.578-05:00It has ben interesting, and I will read up on some...It has ben interesting, and I will read up on some of the points you made. GoodbyeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-20299307160838779392019-01-26T07:24:27.432-05:002019-01-26T07:24:27.432-05:00You diminish yourself with ad hominem. I was mere...You diminish yourself with ad hominem. I was merely comparing your general quote about Lenin. I actually was giving you the benefit of the doubt as you appear to have read the Trostskyists analysis with an open mind You are obviously reasonably intelligent, yet you dismiss those with whom you disagree with insults. I am an old man and had many relative s who fought in WW2. I have heard many points of view. As for Pinochet I was on many marches against Maggie Thatcher giving him refuge in London. All Tyrrany should be opposed. And as for socialism, the egalitarian variety, I have no objection. Authoritarian socialism, or communism, is consolidated by political correcteness. Hence Orwell's objections characterized in Animal Farm. Orwell learned to hate and mistrust communists in the Spanish Civil War. He saw how they co opted the popular front and rationed weapons. They particularly hated the Catalonian anarchists.had the communists won that war they would almost certainly have purged the other socialist groups. sadly in todays climate it has become too easy to dismiss alterantive viewpoints labels and name calling. My practice is usually to guard against those overly reliant on pejoratives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-59008089604082140362019-01-26T06:50:03.991-05:002019-01-26T06:50:03.991-05:00“Hitler was not the monster we thought” may be you...“Hitler was not the monster we thought” may be your best comment ever. I was taught to be skeptical of the standard view of what happened in the Soviet Union etc in communist world by my Hungarian prof kiraly a general who had been in a Stalin death camp. Critical analysis and examining all sides. Context. Did Lenin pull a coup or did bolsheviks have real support? Outcome of civil war with all forces arrayed against them shows he did. Did Stalin betray rev as trots maintain. People slam Castro while ignoring right wing police states all over central and Latin America and at least Cubans got education and health care for giving up freedom. Like they had freedom before. Given a choice you’d prob choose Hitler over Stalin because you hate the ideology of socialism. Hitler ideology doesn’t seem as dangerous to you and fits right into your white supremacy ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-38147481080374702372019-01-26T06:11:35.232-05:002019-01-26T06:11:35.232-05:00Woodrow Wilson ran on a neutrality platform in 191...Woodrow Wilson ran on a neutrality platform in 1914. The reasons why he became rabidly pro war in 1916 provides great insights into the unfolding events that are even relevent today. Why was Sigmund Freud's nephew given a 6 million dollar budget to demonise Germany and create a pro war fervor in America. What were the underlying currents that made this possible. Yes imperialism was evil and needed to be stopped, but other dynamics were at work as well.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-5203429393776438382019-01-26T05:52:38.005-05:002019-01-26T05:52:38.005-05:00The refreshing thing in the big picture is that th...The refreshing thing in the big picture is that the internet has broken the monopoly on information enjoyed for generations by vested interests in sustaining old orthodoxies. People are learning that much of what they were formally taught in school and college is lies and propaganda. The easily proven truth that Bolshevism was the midwife of nationalism was never taught in any school I attended. I never heard<br />of the Holodomer ( genocide of 7 million Ukranians in 1933 who fought for the whites in the civil war) until I expanded my "narrow" knowledge with some independent reading. <br /><br />As for WW1. Remember the old saying. All wars are bankers wars.The old empires had to be destroyed, vis the monarchies before, Bourbons etc. A new internationalist wind was blowing. Check out Louis Brandeis, W Wilson, and the Balfour Declaration. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-25269406026901101372019-01-26T05:24:04.097-05:002019-01-26T05:24:04.097-05:00And what did Lenin and Trotsky do to the "oth...And what did Lenin and Trotsky do to the "other" socialists once they got power. Purged them all along with intellectuals,officer corps, and clergy. The "Red Holocaust" was perpetrated against the majority of the population. only 5% of Russians supported the Bolsheviks. Money from America was the decisive factor. Look into bankers Warburg and Schiff. There is a senator by that name I believe. Maybe they are related. Who the leaders of the 5% were is meticulously described in 200 years together by Alexander Solsenitzn. A brilliant writer who spent 11 years in the gulags. You wont find it in America because only one version of events is allowed. There is a six hour documentary on Youtube by an Englishman,Denis Wise, The reatest Story Never Told, (of course it is continually banned but cannot be eradicated) that also portrays an historical figure, Hitler, as..."not the monster we were taught he was. You should watch it. Take notes. and fact check what yo disagree with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-78973769799004145722019-01-25T21:10:58.517-05:002019-01-25T21:10:58.517-05:00What absolute hogwash and propaganda bullshit. Aft...What absolute hogwash and propaganda bullshit. After revolution USA and Great Britain invaded Russia to kill revolution. Lenin won and pulled Russia out of the war where Russia lost 14 million and saved millions more while we tried to put in a regime that would continue war and lose more millions. Lenin and socialists were against that war - how many died all together? You discount those deaths that were due to imperialism. There was no reason for that war. Talk about liberty? Wilson put anyone in jail who uttered a word against. Eugene debs a pres candidate with millioof votes was sent to 10 years in prison. How easy you discount everything else. Because your really know nothing other than the narrow propaganda you were taught. <br />It’s always Venezuela but never Pinochet. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-53762523607018357642019-01-25T20:44:55.554-05:002019-01-25T20:44:55.554-05:00Great post. Bravo.Great post. Bravo.Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-52260773767772646202019-01-25T17:05:20.668-05:002019-01-25T17:05:20.668-05:00The 1984 reference is related to truth and percept...The 1984 reference is related to truth and perception. Lenin was easily as barbaric as Hitler. Yet somehow in America people like you can venerate him and communism. There is even a statue of lenin in Seattle. Imagine a statue of Hitler in Philadelphia. I read all of Orwell. I even read "Keep the Aspidistra flying. Without googling it, what is the symbolism of the aspidistra?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-19348770838973196552019-01-25T16:56:40.823-05:002019-01-25T16:56:40.823-05:00Orwell was a socialist till the day he died. Was a...Orwell was a socialist till the day he died. Was anti Stalin. You ought to read him some time instead of tossing around buzz words. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-49561387557954326942019-01-25T16:41:18.247-05:002019-01-25T16:41:18.247-05:00'it is true that liberty is precious,so precio...'it is true that liberty is precious,so precious that it must be rationed.'<br /><br />From one of history's greatest mass murderers, Vladimir LeninAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-65470921699496404922019-01-25T15:33:35.057-05:002019-01-25T15:33:35.057-05:0019841984Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-40978487178089524482019-01-25T11:01:08.934-05:002019-01-25T11:01:08.934-05:00VenezuelaVenezuelaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com