tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post4335174551844292629..comments2024-03-26T11:07:03.496-04:00Comments on Ed Notes Online: Today: MORE Members Elected to UFT Exec Board attend first meetinged notes onlinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-13620736616570713912016-09-21T21:51:26.304-04:002016-09-21T21:51:26.304-04:00Ok, but when you say "let's concentrate.....Ok, but when you say "let's concentrate..." are you implying something jointly?<br /><br />As far as observer, yes. I think planned effectively, you can have people there for most times even ballots are handled. Francesco Porteloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249197982072281997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-30105520143650997332016-09-21T21:05:57.635-04:002016-09-21T21:05:57.635-04:00I see. But what do you expect to learn if she is a...I see. But what do you expect to learn if she is allowed? And would she spend her days walking back and forth to the post office? Would she do it every day or spot check? Say they were doing something funny. They just would do it when she wasn't around. To me it is throwing one more thing against the wall. Let's concentrate on real election reform - this is something that weakens the overall case. My aim os to get school by school numbers of how many voted with check offs of the names so they can be crosschecked. I bet a lot more people would vote if the school lsits were published. Couldn't she as a former teacher join the union?ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-34719367948222481132016-09-19T20:18:35.990-04:002016-09-19T20:18:35.990-04:00Portellos, I applaud your effort(s) on this matter...Portellos, I applaud your effort(s) on this matter. I don't know enough to truly understand, but if these complaints can actually eventually be heard by the US Department of Labor, I think that is good. On the other hand if the USDOL finds nothing wrong, then that is a negative. Still think it's worth the chance. Good luck.Unitymustgo!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14117390123313141745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-88818669798738935152016-09-19T13:33:13.093-04:002016-09-19T13:33:13.093-04:00UFT members mean they were in school teaching duri...UFT members mean they were in school teaching during the day as ballots were being handled. She wasn't teaching and available. (discontinued in 2013). Retirees were not available either. I personally have no trouble chalking up a lot to inexperience, but you have to start somewhere. Again, these complaints aren't about overturning the whole election. They are about fixing issues for future votes, including ratification of 2018 contract. Will that be tallied on Excel too?Francesco Porteloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249197982072281997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-83645274792545516912016-09-19T13:19:28.061-04:002016-09-19T13:19:28.061-04:00So far - and I'm not finished -- In reading th...So far - and I'm not finished -- In reading the responses to your complaints they make perfect sense to me so far. You had someone on the election committee and voted to accept the ballot. If you had raised this point beforehand I imagine you could have had the 2013 ballot form. Fact is you were not prepared for this due to inexperience. chalk it up to a learning experience and be more ready next time. The low vote totals is what makes this so weak and in the long term, except with die hard supporters who think you might have won of done much better if only the wording were different, this weakens your credibility. That you want a non-UFT member to be an observer is a negative. Why isn't Vickers a UFT member? Why do you need to use non-UFT members? ANd if she had obsereved one day what does that even mean given there were 3 weeks of mail being received? Was she going to move in? It is all nitpicking on the whole. But Unity is sandbagging MORE on this putting us in a position of voting against you because most of this stuff is not credible. And then you will make a big deal about that which Unity will just love. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-69542738177191166932016-09-19T09:53:13.684-04:002016-09-19T09:53:13.684-04:00Thanks for the mention Norm, but they are not &quo...Thanks for the mention Norm, but they are not "Portelos'" complaints, but rather that of our caucus. We do throw a wide net, but we learned not to give Unity an inch. Surely a Bronx Chapter leader giving a dollar and a water bottle for every ballot she collected is troublesome. Sure I received a stipend as a chapter leader to get coffee and donuts for meetings, but assuming about 60 members at the school, $60 out of pocket isn't something we believe. Oh by the way, she is also a PM staffer. All that ballot collection and scanning and it winds up on a manually entered Excel file? Hmm... Everyone, MORE/NAC included, should have a problem with that.<br /><br />That's just 2 examples of our 16 complaints. The rest are here: http://www.uftsolidarity.org/uft-executive-board-to-vote-on-solidaritys-uft-election-complaints/<br /><br />I will see you tonight Norm.<br /><br />Francesco Porteloshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03249197982072281997noreply@blogger.com