tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post5054046712979006625..comments2024-03-26T11:07:03.496-04:00Comments on Ed Notes Online: UPDATED: Does Brexit Shock and Awe Forecast POTUS Election - and UFT Internals tooed notes onlinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-819555685390275312016-06-27T04:56:50.462-04:002016-06-27T04:56:50.462-04:00If knowing I support MORE gives you a chuckle then...If knowing I support MORE gives you a chuckle then I guess you'll split your sides knowing I also send them a monthly donation. People like me support MORE because MORE supports working teachers---a foreign concept to you Unity shills. RoseanneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-18191256183409704152016-06-27T00:12:45.179-04:002016-06-27T00:12:45.179-04:008:30PM must be naive about fundamental leftists wh...8:30PM must be naive about fundamental leftists who see Clinton as being as bad as Trump. Many of them weren't even happy about Bernie. And you vastly overestimate the NYCORE connection. Few NYCORE people are active in MORE since NYCORE work takes most of their time. More ICE people who are not fundamental leftists seem to be involved in MORE. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-27528793383747891132016-06-26T23:01:07.042-04:002016-06-26T23:01:07.042-04:00You may be right about fundamentalist leftists. A ...You may be right about fundamentalist leftists. A whole bunch of people are not fundamentalist leftists. I didn't notice more sending back the membership dues. And there is a difference between someone who supports trump because they agree with him and people who hate the democrats so badly for betraying teachers. I see it as spite votes and when push comes to shove I believe they will vote 3rd party. And if Hillary lose you guys won't distinguish between trump actual voters and Jill stein as you try to naderize everyone. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-81503522444278484422016-06-26T20:30:28.093-04:002016-06-26T20:30:28.093-04:00So then you want the Trump supporters in MORE. How...So then you want the Trump supporters in MORE. How do your NYCORE buddies feel about that? I don't think the fundamentalist leftists are going to be happy with your position or Roseanne's. Maybe that will be a topic for the summer. MORE and Trump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-46504222300691376112016-06-26T18:47:37.080-04:002016-06-26T18:47:37.080-04:00That non leftists like Roseanne supports more sho...That non leftists like Roseanne supports more should keep you laughing for a long time. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-50953478907793024472016-06-26T18:11:45.562-04:002016-06-26T18:11:45.562-04:00Roseanne you said you are voting for a racist. The...Roseanne you said you are voting for a racist. The fact that you support MORE is comical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-28492860894815538972016-06-26T15:12:25.968-04:002016-06-26T15:12:25.968-04:00Riseanne's rationale for voting trump is not a...Riseanne's rationale for voting trump is not agreement with him but to keep you slugs out of getting more power. Just whatever need is Randi with more power for 4or 8 years under Hillary. Roseannes thinking is to bite the bullet with trump for 4 years as a radical act. I disagree with her because a dictator with an army behind him can ignore all rules. Giving republicans control over every branch of govt is not a radical act. Paul Ryan is death to teachers. If Obama was bad u ain't seen nothing yet. They will evuscerate state budgets. Kansas here we come. No pensions for us. Even we retirees. So while in a safe state I can vote to build a 3rd party my feeling is to live with hillary for 4 years but start a movement to make sure 4 years are it from the left. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-46865471239432968582016-06-26T12:22:07.230-04:002016-06-26T12:22:07.230-04:00Let's take a look at what MORE is against. MO...Let's take a look at what MORE is against. MORE is against teacher evaluations being tied to test scores. Against high class size. Against the persecution of teachers in the opt out movement. Against the 2nd tier status of ATR union members. Against a bullshit contract and delay in retro. Against abusive administrators who torment members. And---OMG! Against racism...how dare they? Roseanne McCoshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-52278798919059654472016-06-26T12:19:26.199-04:002016-06-26T12:19:26.199-04:00You must be right. Only 11000 votes and winning th...You must be right. Only 11000 votes and winning the high schools while the other opposition which focused on a narrow teacher rights agenda couldn't get enough people to fill a slate. Yes unity is loving that more can attract people like Roseanne despite its leftists. In the long run we keep fighting racism because it must be fought. I see more as a big enough tent where people who want to focus on social justice can do so and those who want to focus on things like contract can do that. Or do both. Our summer series is hard core but led by strong Sj people. Our book clubs are Sj. That kind of caucus is a threat to unity in the long run unless it goes off the rails. At the pep I met young teachers who knew all about more and support us. We were in the house fighting farina and unity wasn't. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-53718662948435426062016-06-26T12:04:53.266-04:002016-06-26T12:04:53.266-04:00MORE is exactly the opposition Unity wants and nee...MORE is exactly the opposition Unity wants and needs. A bunch of far left fundamentalists with a few union people thrown in because MORE is against Unity. Keep fighting for the end of racism while some of your people back Trump. Do you even get the irony Norm?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-79993017011252845552016-06-26T09:16:46.641-04:002016-06-26T09:16:46.641-04:00Unity has used red baiting against the opposition ...Unity has used red baiting against the opposition for almost 50 years. Yes most people in more are left. Having people like Roseanne support more scared unity because it takes away one of their lines of attack. We had right leaning conservatives run with us. If more shifts too far left and ignores the fundamentals that attract Roseanne more will end up being what unity wants it to be. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-83861525780061833862016-06-26T07:52:23.384-04:002016-06-26T07:52:23.384-04:00Sorry it drives Unity people nuts that non lefty l...Sorry it drives Unity people nuts that non lefty liberals like me will support a lefty group like MORE and that they don't require a loyalty oath to join. Calm yourself the Unity way by just declaring this another VICTORY. "VICTORY, VICTORY, VICTORY!" See, don't you feel better already? RoseanneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-34687223092556332392016-06-25T10:59:13.077-04:002016-06-25T10:59:13.077-04:00Why shouldn't MORE include Trump supporters if...Why shouldn't MORE include Trump supporters if they feel comfortable enough to join a clearly leftist organization. I guess you want a loyalty oath like you have in Unity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-77497961531495963602016-06-25T10:57:03.092-04:002016-06-25T10:57:03.092-04:00I just went to read the Ben Stein piece - are u fu...I just went to read the Ben Stein piece - are u fuckn nuts:<br />“What the White House is trying to do is racialize all politics and they’re especially trying to tell the African-American voter that the GOP is against letting them have a chance at a good life in this economy, and that’s just a complete lie,” the conservative author said on Fox News’ “America’s News HQ,” Mediaite reported.<br />Mr. Stein rejected the notion that Republican budget cuts negatively impact minorities.<br /><br />Really? You mean the Republican agenda is GOOD for people? Cutting budgets to the bone is good for people? Making the govt dyfunctional is good for people? Do Republicans pull the race card since Nixon? Did their paragon Barry Goldwater oppose the vioting rights act? Did you ever take a history course? I should ban you from even reading ed notes. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-60911425543249338292016-06-25T10:51:23.863-04:002016-06-25T10:51:23.863-04:00Clearly you are a Unity slug. Did you read Roseann...Clearly you are a Unity slug. Did you read Roseanne's reasons? Or Arthur's reasons for voting 3rd party? Fact is many people in MORE won't vote for Hillary - and if she loses I can only imagine Unity blaming MORE for her defeat. People are sick of the Democratic party and your maximum leader's having her head up their donkey ass. My aim is to destroy the sellout Democratic Party and I bet many people in MORE agree. It is you who have lost so many of us by groveling at the feet of ed deformers.<br />ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-43514431349377685832016-06-25T10:05:52.352-04:002016-06-25T10:05:52.352-04:00Really? Ben stein is a source? I'm sure Obama ...Really? Ben stein is a source? I'm sure Obama is more racist than Andrew Jackson and slave owners thomas Jefferson and George Washington. Make America great again. Let's reinstall the 3/5 rule to count black people. After all it was in the constitution. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-62838590408323501122016-06-25T09:27:24.522-04:002016-06-25T09:27:24.522-04:00Start with Steins comments...let me count the ways...Start with Steins comments...let me count the ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-59133430199606217602016-06-25T09:06:30.229-04:002016-06-25T09:06:30.229-04:00So Roseanne is voting Trump. Good to know. Isn'...So Roseanne is voting Trump. Good to know. Isn't she a strong MORE supporter who got most of her school to join MORE? MORE includes Trump supporters. I can't stop laughing. How do you explain this to your NYCORE buddies?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-31067045599274124512016-06-25T09:02:24.291-04:002016-06-25T09:02:24.291-04:00http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/3/ben...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/3/ben-stein-obama-most-racist-president-in-american-/<br /><br />Lets start with some or all of these points. From this writer...this could be the most racist President in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-10920757858614886832016-06-25T08:08:15.883-04:002016-06-25T08:08:15.883-04:00Really? Obama a racist? Why not give examples. If ...Really? Obama a racist? Why not give examples. If anything he bent over backwards to downplay race. You seem to think the white people have been screwed. That is a form of racism lacking any understanding of the black experience in this country where when I began teaching in 1967 black people down south had just had the right to ride in the front of the bus. Before accusing Obama of racism study some history.ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-36814040065917418542016-06-25T08:04:21.177-04:002016-06-25T08:04:21.177-04:00What 6:02 described above has already happened wit...What 6:02 described above has already happened with a twist. Trump is a "slicker" Ross Perot. Remember how right Perot was ? "That giant sucking sound" you hear are all of the jobs that will leave the U.S. with acts like NAFTA. Well, he was completely correct ! Now that giant sucking sound is the entire country now, across the board. The U.S. is so broke and in debt, that automatic welfare packages for illegals is unaffordable. Many will vote for Trump, and he will win, because people know that he can't possibly fuck things up worse than the establishment politicians. Clinton is history, and should sit with Jeb Bush....over and out. Clinton is on the wrong side of history...Trump is your next President. Obama was a charlatan, and quite a racist himself. Racism goes both ways, with black racists as well. Obama is a very dangerous racist himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-35061025024875486232016-06-25T07:43:10.269-04:002016-06-25T07:43:10.269-04:00Here's where I disagree Roseanne - on the 3rd ...Here's where I disagree Roseanne - on the 3rd party issue. The Democratic Party will not change - they will keep putting up phony fronts. Only a growing 3rd party can really stop them - it happened very fast in Italy over the past few years. I don't know if Green is the answer but if the Bernie people get active there is a chance. Jill Stein is polling 7% right now - the difference between Hillary and Trump. So a vote for Green builds the cache and influence of a 3rd party - only that threat will force change om the Dems. And really, if Trump turns into the North Korean guy you may not want your vote for him on your conscience. ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-13599844023929111662016-06-25T06:55:16.682-04:002016-06-25T06:55:16.682-04:00If Trump wins, it will be the anti politics-as-usu...If Trump wins, it will be the anti politics-as-usual wave that carries him to the White House. I rode the wave with Bernie and will now ride the wave with Trump. I truly see it as the only way to wake up the Democratic Party. I understand that people may disagree with those who think like I do but what I can't understand is how you can't understand why people like me are voting for Trump. Claims that we aren't "thinking people" or mocking his hair and his speech impediment don't matter to Trump supporters. Some buy his rhetoric. Others, like myself, are willing to accept whatever comes our way with him because we are tired of being told by dems that they are on the side of working and middle class people while their actions contradict their words. Obama was bad for teachers. Clinton will be bad for teachers. Cuomo is bad for teachers. Dems have not been good for unionized workers at all. So there really is no difference between them and the republicans other than the republicans tell us up front that they hate us. As I said....I get it if you disagree. If you think Clinton will be a better president than Trump, you have your reasons and that's your right. But to claim you don't understand why Trump has more than neandertals and racists supporting him means you just don't want to understand. Plenty of teachers and other unionized workers I know are voting for Trump--and they are not racist idiots. They, like me, are tired of the democrats and their bullshit. And as a result, we are willing to back the other guy because we genuinely believe that a vote for Clinton is telling the democrats it's okay to screw us anytime you want because we will give you our vote regardless of what you do. I'm not willing to do that anymore. And I'm also no longer willing to give my vote to a third party that has zero chance of winning. The mere fact that Clinton was endorsed by Randi, who sells us out time and time again, is reason enough for me to vote for Trump. If every teacher committed to voting for the guy/gal Randi doesn't want us to vote for, her political clout would be gone. Agree or disagree but please stop saying you don't understand why. Roseanne McCoshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-48298103476471098012016-06-24T22:15:17.274-04:002016-06-24T22:15:17.274-04:00Since I've barely laughed at SNL since John Be...Since I've barely laughed at SNL since John Belushi it might be worth having Trump win for that reason alone.ed notes onlinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018047869059226777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33431390.post-91291348978849247722016-06-24T21:51:36.153-04:002016-06-24T21:51:36.153-04:00Forget about that fact that he is a racist, egotis...Forget about that fact that he is a racist, egotistical, con artist How can we have a President who uses the word "bigly", cannot pronounce the "L" sound properly [ask a speech teacher to listen if you cannot pick that up}, has hair that resembles a bird's nest and continually uses the words "loser and disgusting", when ever he makes a speech!! What a ball SNL will have if Trump becomes PresidentMr. Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08607330595120585171noreply@blogger.com