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Claims by Scott Stringer Accuser Unravel as Progressives Flee New York Mayoral Candidate. New
details about Jean Kim’s role on Stringer’s 2001 campaign and her
relationship to the candidate paint a very different portrait of the
power dynamic at play....Wiley at the time recommended “assessing the accused’s credibility
and response to the allegation in comparison to the credibility of the
accuser and supporting evidence.” .... https://theintercept.com/2021/05/04/nyc-mayor-scott-stringer-jean-kim/
Video: D.C. bureau chief of The Intercept, Ryan Grim, digs into sexual harassment allegations against NYC mayoral candidates, Scott Stringer and finde major discrepancies in Jean Kim's story - Rising, The Hill https://youtu.be/qSy2d6Nq4EI
As former prosecutors and attorneys deeply concerned about respecting the survivors of sexual assault and protecting the rights of the accused, we believe that justice requires a more nuanced approach than we are seeing in the current debate. We approach this, as we would any the report of any crime, through the neutral lens of investigation.... Maya Wiley, May, 2020. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade-steps-can-provide-full-accounting-metoo-ncna1203006 {MUST READ}
NY1 , a day after Stringer accused |
UFT standing by Stringer in mayoral bid amid sexual abuse ...
5 days ago — Stringer denies the accusations claiming he and Kim had a consensual relationship for a brief period of time.
May 5, 2021, Report from a white privileged {old} male
Don't you love so-called "progressives?"
I'm so glad I've never had any power - especially in my own home.
The Intercept report and great reporter Ryan Grim's appearance on Rising yesterday might be too late to save Stringer, but I never gave him much of a chance of winning anyway. White males are not kosher this year. The way Yang is courting the Hassids, he may be the kosher one in the race.
UFT Endorsement holds
Don't get me wrong. I liked Stringer at times over the years but even he has links to Bloomberg though Micah, Lasher, his campaign manager, who many of us fighting ed deform have found to be despicable. Stringer wasn't my first choice - but actually none of them are. Much loved by the left Diane Morales once took a job in the Joel Klein anti-union pro-charter administration. But the left can conveniently forget when it needs to - except if you made a dumb tweet when you were in the womb - then cancellation for life.
The UFT endorsement with Stringer the only choice looked like another failure in UFT mayoral races. At the very least, given some high level UFT officials' support for Wiley, I figured her as second choice and viewed not doing so as a mistake.
Now with the Intercept report Mulgrew is not looking as bad - imagine if Wiley was second choice and screaming for Stringer to drop out practically before Kim got the words out of her mouth. I'm sure teachers could rely on Wiley for support for due process if they are accused of something. Anything.
Were the charges against Stringer an outcome of the UFT endorsement which gave him legs? Do I suspect the Yang camp? Maybe not him but never forget Bloomberg fave Bradley Tusk, a major POS, is Yang's handler. If Stringer had been in single figures in the poles we would have been spared this drama.
But the UFT reaffirmed its commitment to the Stringer endorsement while MORE Caucus called for the UFT to rescind. Naturally. Some people find it funny when unionists want to throw away due process, but having been denied the same when I was drummed out of MORE, I'm not surprised that the idea of due process is forgotten when politically inconvenient.
Fuck due process:
MORE clearly is pushing Morales but have they actually taken a democratic vote of all MORE members like they are asking of the UFT? They won't officially endorse Morales but are trying to shame the UFT into doing it. The left in the UFT is voting Morales and maybe some will be for Wiley. Stringer threatened to take some left votes.
I don't often love Mike Mulgrew but not backing down from the UFT choice of Stringer is gutsy in a way. I wonder if Stringer didn't give Mulgrew a heads up on the Intercept story. I'd put a few bob on that.
I may make Stringer one of my votes and will give no votes
to amy candidate that called on him to leave the race. Actually, that condition may leave Stringer as the only candidate left for me. I stand for due
process for teachers - and everyone else. I'm pretty sure Morales, whom I was considering, also asked for Stringer to drop out -- hooray for due process.
- See Eterno take on UFT Stringer endorsement: MIXED EMOTIONS ON THE UFT STRINGER ENDORSEMENT AND...
The Stringer case has bugged me from the start. Compare to the Cuomo story - I believed all the people charging him. The use and abuse of power accumulates over time. Have we heard of much Stringer stuff over the past 20 years? And don't forget, he stopped Eva Moskowitz' political career -- believe me if there was dirt the Moskowitz machine would have thrown it -- which actually leads my conspiracy laden mind to think how bad for Eva it would be if Stringer became mayor ----- Hmmmm. Did the charter ed industrial complex have a role in the exposure of Stringer? Does the PR firm Kim works for have any connections? This stuff hit just after the UFT endorsement gave Stringer campaign legs. Put The Intercept on that case. And by the way - here is this little tidbit about her firm from their story:
Since 2015, TLM has represented the American Petroleum Institute, Bank of America, and a slew of other corporate, nonprofit, and developer clients. Stringer, as comptroller, led the largest divestment from fossil fuels in the world.
I had some issues with Tara Reade's Biden story due to no other women coming forth -- I assume if Biden did what he did to Reade a man with power would do it to more women. So that counts. But there is still an element of truth in her story. In some ways her story holds up better than Jean Kim's.
But the same conditions apply to Stringer. I don't see women coming out of the woodwork making charges like we hear about Cuomo. Maybe more women will emerge but they better have their ducks in a row given the holes in Kim's story. The Intercept story in full below catches her in lie after lie - I mean real lies with written records.
It's still going to be touch and go. If no one else emerges to say he groped or propositioned them, even if Stringer loses, Mulgrew looks good for standing by him. On the process they used for mayoral endorsement - not so much. Unity claims they sent out 10 billion emails and millions of UFT members, including the ghosts of dead members, took part in the process.
I smelled a rat with Jean Kim's account from the moment I heard it based on the exquisite timing. Wait 20 years until weeks before the election, when there would be little time to vet her. It looked like a hit. And it looked like it worked. I see Stringer as dead in the water and would bet on Adams being next mayor, based on rise in crime. A black ex-cop will have leeway to do certain things that will rile the left. A black Giuliani?
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I guess Jean Kim had no idea her good friend Esther was aligned with Andrew. Note to Esther - Jean Kim was once Scott Stringer's friend. Watch your back.
One of my favorite reporters is Ryan Grim at the left-leaning Intercept and he appears often on Rising. Yesterday he was on the Jean Kim case as he explained to Krystal and Saagar in some detail about his investigation. (See video below).
Intern is the magic word
Stringer and Kim were part of the same social circle and they all volunteered for his campaign. She was 30 and had a job but initially claimed she was an intern - a bald-faced lie - and her explanation he told her it was an intern-like environment was bullshit as they actually had real interns. The Intercept talked to people who knew them and reported their relationship fell into the "friends with benefits" category.
In today's climate we're automatically expected to believe a female accuser, and often they are proven right. But sometimes with vetting, there are doubts. Witness the Biden accuser, Tara Reade, whose credibility was doubted over months of vetting her past. Some people still believe her and in some ways her story is much worse than that of Stringer's accuser.
But Maya Wiley was quick to hold off judgement on Biden in an essay she co-wrote in May 2020.
That means that step one after accepting Reade’s allegation is to investigate it. Because her allegations occurred long enough ago that the statute of limitations bars any possibility of prosecution, law enforcement agencies don't have jurisdiction to investigate, and investigation funded by either Reade or Biden would likely be viewed as lacking objectivity. But there is a vehicle for investigation — the independent press, where investigative journalists are highly motivated to seek out details and witnesses and where competing views will be aired.
Now watch how Wiley and crew cast shade on Reade for showing support for Biden many years after the incident:
Reade has praised Biden for protecting women from sexual assault. As recently as 2016 or 2017, Reade, under the name Tara McCabe, tweeted praise for Biden’s efforts to address sexual assault and retweeted the accolades of others for his efforts. In one tweet, Reade said, “My old boss speaks truth. Listen."Reade has also changed her story about the reason she left her job at Biden’s office,
Scott Stringer was on Brian Lehrer and he was really grilled by Bryan, and not in a totally fair way. Like even if they were dating, what about the power relationship - holy fuck, we must assess our power relationships before dating. Maybe we need an online form to fill out before getting permission or else expect 30 years later to be charged with something. Or male teachers -- Did you ever tell a female student she looked pretty?
Here's the Rising video
D.C. bureau chief of The Intercept, Ryan Grim, digs into sexual harassment allegations against NYC mayoral candidates, Scott Stringer.
The full Intercept report below the fold - a must read
In the wake of the allegations made by Tara Reade against then-presidential candidate Joe Biden in 2020, Maya Wiley co-authored a thoughtful essay framing how to respond to such claims in a fraught time.
“Accepting the allegation and investigating it is what we mean when we say believe all women. Corroboration is key here,” Wiley wrote of Reade’s allegation, adding that “believing women doesn’t mean we don’t also ask for further information, context and clarification.”
Wiley at the time recommended “assessing the accused’s credibility and response to the allegation in comparison to the credibility of the accuser and supporting evidence.”
Wiley is now running for New York City mayor, a race that was upended last week by an allegation of sexual abuse and harassment by Jean Kim against another candidate, New York City Comptroller Scott Stringer. Many of the progressive groups and elected officials who had backed him abruptly withdrew their support before engaging in any such process of investigation.
Upon closer examination, however, The Intercept has found evidence contradicting elements of Kim’s claims.
The explosive news initially broke on April 28 by the local Gothamist in an article headlined “Former Campaign Intern Accuses Scott Stringer Of Sexual Abuse, Harassment.” It described Kim’s allegation, made in a statement provided by her attorney, that in 2001, while she was working as an intern on his campaign for New York City public advocate, Stringer “kissed me using his tongue, put his hand down my pants and groped me inside my underpants.” “I pulled away and tried to avoid him,” she said. Later that day, at a press conference, Kim reiterated her allegations, setting off a spiral of denunciations from rivals and former supporters of Stringer. Stringer flatly denied the allegation, saying he and Kim had been involved in an on-again, off-again consensual relationship — a “light relationship,” he called it at one point.
Kim, in an interview with local media, denied a consensual relationship with Stringer of any kind, leaving three major open questions and many more minor ones. The biggest question — whether Stringer groped Kim without consent — is unanswerable without witnesses or corroborating evidence, neither of which has so far been presented by Kim or her attorney or reported elsewhere. But an attempt to confirm Kim’s role on the campaign and the nature of her relationship to Stringer has produced evidence that paints a different portrait of the power dynamic at play.
Kim, in the statement, said that she was hired as an unpaid intern on Stringer’s campaign after she was introduced to him, then a candidate for public advocate, in 2001 by Eric Schneiderman, the former New York attorney general who resigned in disgrace in 2018 following multiple, credible allegations of assault. “In 2001, she met Eric Schneiderman when he was running for state Senator. Schneiderman introduced her to Scott Stringer, who at the time was the head of the Community Free Democratic Club on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Jean joined the club and became immersed in its activities,” her attorney, Patricia Pastor, said at the press conference.
A number of sources, including documents and records from the time, cast doubt on Kim’s claim to have met Stringer for the first time in 2001. While Kim claimed to have been an unpaid intern on the Stringer’s 2001 campaign for public advocate, others involved in the campaign said that by that point she was already an established member of the group’s social set helping out a friend running for office.
Three longtime mutual friends of Stringer and Kim, who declined to speak on the record for fear of facing professional reprisal, said that the friendship between the two went back to the 1990s — when both were part of two social and political clubs: Community Free Democrats and DL21c, a young urban professional Democratic leadership group — and extended well into the next decade.
The sources, who worked or volunteered for Stringer’s 2001 campaign for public advocate and knew both Stringer and Kim, supported Stringer’s version of the story, each saying that the pair were in a casual relationship and that Stringer’s description of it as a “light relationship” matches with their own impression.
“They definitely had a more-than-friends relationship,” said one woman who volunteered for the campaign and was friends with both Stringer and Kim. She asked not to be named so as not to have her name “plastered across the newspapers,” but, like the others, recalled the pair getting cozy at bars, or walking with arms around each other, among other signs of intimacy that buttressed a widespread understanding of the nature of their relationship.
Pastor, at the press conference, said that Kim would not be answering questions. “If anyone has any follow-up questions, you can contact me,” she said. “Please do not attempt to contact my client, Ms. Kim. She will not be giving direct statements.” Pastor declined to comment for this article or to make Kim available.
A fourth source, the field director for Stringer’s 2001 campaign, said he ran the campaign’s internship program and only hired high school and college students. Kim, who was 30 years old at the time, was described by Stringer as a volunteer. “She was a volunteer, as many of my friends were volunteers,” he said.
Kim has made much of the status of intern, saying that her decision to come forward was connected to the way she was treated. “I said, ‘I can’t take this anymore.’ Especially when I know what he did to me, what I believed he did to other interns, it just sickened me and I couldn’t sit still,” Kim told local PIX11 news, explaining others had told her, “Scott has an intern problem.”
The claim that Kim and Stringer knew each other prior to 2001 is also supported by membership and donation records. Community Free Democratic Club records obtained by The Intercept show that Kim became a dues-paying member of the club on January 27, 2000. People involved in the club said that it is rare, if not unheard of, for a person to become a dues-paying member of the club on their first visit. Stringer, club members said, never missed a meeting — gatherings of only several dozen people — meaning the two likely would have met earlier.
And, according to the New York City Campaign Finance Board, Kim first donated to Stringer’s campaign in May 1999, kicking in $25, along with $50 a month later. She made three more contributions between then and 2001. There was little infrastructure at the time for small donors to make online contributions to local candidates, so the amounts are consistent with the types of social fundraisers common to New York City politics, often hosted in bars or restaurants. As Stringer’s campaign heated up, his social set rallied for him, volunteering on nights and weekends while holding down day jobs. Kim was no different, said the friends. The donation records also list her as working for a PR agency called Trimedia. At the press conference, Kim explained the job as necessary because she wasn’t being paid by Stringer. “I worked at a PR agency. Since I was unpaid at this job, I needed to pay my bills,” Kim said.
Two versions of the Stringer-Kim relationship have been put forward. Kim’s version is that she was an unpaid intern preyed upon by a powerful politician, with whom she never had a consensual relationship. Stringer’s is that Kim was part of an Upper West Side peer group and the two had a consensual, if casual, relationship. Between those two versions, of course, is an endless gray area, and it is easily conceivable that Kim is wrong about when they first met, wrong about her role on the campaign, lying about whether they were in a casual relationship, and yet was still the victim of an overly aggressive Stringer who crossed lines.
Other nontrivial discrepancies have emerged about what happened in the years following the alleged assault. Kim claimed that, after the experience with Stringer, she left Community Free Democrats. “She had few friends in the city, outside of the club, and she viewed the club members as her surrogate family. She did not want to risk losing them in the event that Stringer chose to use influence against her. She also knew that Stringer was well connected in New York, and she feared that he could negatively impact her future and her career,” her attorney said at the press conference. “Alternately, Jean moved across town, to the East Side, and quit the club.”
Club records show she remained a dues-paying member at least through 2006. Members of the club remember her attending events and remaining involved for many years after. Her 2013 résumé lists her as a member of the group. An email from April 2013 that she wrote to an associate, reviewed by The Intercept, describes an evening she had just spent with the club. Simply put, her claim to have quit the group after an alleged assault is demonstrably false, as she remained involved in the group for at least another decade.
In 2005, Kim was an active volunteer on Stringer’s campaign for Manhattan borough president, according to two people with knowledge. Unlike his bid for public advocate four years earlier, this one was successful. In 2008, when Stringer ran for reelection as borough president, Kim began donating to him again, making two modest contributions. She also made a contribution in May 2010 to his upcoming NYC comptroller campaign. (Kim over the years has made more than $9,000 in contributions to a slew of Democratic candidates, according to campaign finance records.)
Kim also said that she had never applied for work with Stringer’s 2013 campaign for comptroller, but the Stringer campaign subsequently produced an email Kim sent, résumé attached, asking whether she could be helpful on the campaign. Kim ended up volunteering for Stringer’s opponent, Eliot Spitzer, instead. Spitzer had been expected to dominate the field given his name recognition, but Stringer pulled off an upset. Kim’s contributions to Stringer’s political career stopped.
In 2006, Kim started lobbying, on a freelance basis, for TLM Associates, where she has remained as of recently. Since 2015, TLM has represented the American Petroleum Institute, Bank of America, and a slew of other corporate, nonprofit, and developer clients. Stringer, as comptroller, led the largest divestment from fossil fuels in the world.
Last week, Stringer’s campaign accused Kim of working for Andrew Yang’s rival mayoral campaign. Kim denied this and has said she remains undecided on her choice for mayor. But public records show she collected petitions for a slate of candidates including Yang as recently as March. In October 2020, she gave $50 to Maya Wiley’s mayoral bid.
Again, none of this information on its own means that Kim’s allegation is false. A person who collected signatures for Yang still has the standing to make an allegation of abuse by another candidate. As the Harvey Weinstein case showed, victims of abuse can later say positive things about them or seek their help advancing professionally.
The current standard, journalistically, for reporting a sexual harassment or assault allegation, is to present corroborating evidence from the time of the alleged incident. Kim’s attorney was asked by a reporter if Kim told “anybody at the time, contemporaneously, or in the years following, that she was harassed by Mr. Stringer?”
“Yes, she did,” Pastor said. “We’re not going to provide any of that information today. Thank you for the question.” So far, no corroborating evidence has been presented, no friends or relatives who say they heard the story from Kim years earlier.
But progressive groups, elected officials, and Stringer’s opponents alike wasted no time weighing in. Progressive state Sens. Alessandra Biaggi and Julia Salazar, state Assembly Members Catalina Cruz and Yuh-Line Niou, and Rep. Jamaal Bowman all withdrew their support of Stringer. The Working Families Party, one of Stringer’s most high-profile endorsers, dropped its support of the candidate.
“Jean Kim shared her experience of sexual assault and Scott Stringer failed to acknowledge and consider his responsibility for that harm,” the statement read, condemning Stringer for denying the allegation. The Sunrise Movement — which, like WFP, stepped back from its support of congressional candidate Alex Morse last year after bogus allegations were leveled at him — also dropped its support of Stringer.
Even Wiley called for Stringer to step aside. “It is time for Scott Stringer to remove himself from this race,” she said.
“The best case scenario in the story is that Scott Stringer doesn’t understand when someone says no,” Wiley added. “There is simply no man who can tell a woman whether or not she has consented to a sexual relationship — that is not how it works.”
Stringer, however, has vowed to stay in.
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Due process for a worker against a boss is different than when it's.....a boss....against someone who is accusing him of harassment
Stringer was not her boss. She was not an intern but a volunteer as a friend and possible romantic partner. She had a job why a real boss. Looks like a hit job by Bradley Tusk who worked for Bloomberg. Polls show this helps Yang the most.
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