Wednesday, July 14, 2021

Medicare Murderers - Et tu Mulgrew - The Dirty Medicare Murder Plot is a Done Deal - UFT Yes, PSC Votes No - City’s Plan Will Reduce Retiree Health Care by 24%

July 14 - 9 PM

I don't care about what goodies they may throw in. I oppose this plan like I oppose charter schools - even of they are made of gold - I oppose the neo-liberal moves to degrade government services and turn them over to profitizing privatizeers. I also oppose the privatization of space. And the privatization of research labs which used to have much stricter controls under the government but now turned into profit machines that could lead to lab leaks -- look up the history of lab leaks in this country.  

Note the union leaders argued when Bernie was floating medicare for all that Bernie wanted to take away your beloved union health plan. And how UFT people were telling people as recently as a few months ago not to take a medicare advantage plan because they suck and stick with Medicare. And then they take away our beloved health plan.

So keep your damn silver sneakers and give me back my Medicare.

UPDATE Video mentions unions collaborating to privatize NY Retirees plus United Health Care cuts emergency room visits - -

Host calls health insurance companies blood sucking tics - 

DISCLAIMER - Even though Hartmann mentions what is happening he gets it wrong ----


I keep saying it - moving us out of a public and into a private option is the same thing as moving public school options into privatized management. And just like charters are like a long time dagger at the heart of public schools, this move is a dagger at the heart of Medicare. No politician wants to say openly they are for eliminating Medicare, so they all gang up to do this underneath the table.

We've been inundated with input, so here are a few.

Tuesday - July 12 - The PSC had a meeting of 791 people — both retirees and inservice folks. The leadership is asking for a moratorium on the vote at the MLC tomorrow evening. It’s unlikely that will be agreed to. Without a moratorium, the PSC delegates will vote NO on approving the MA contract. Apparently some other unions will also vote no, but not enough to outweigh the DC 37 and UFT vote.

There were LOTS of questions that people asked together on the mass zoom meeting. Some were answered satisfactorily but many could not be because the answers just aren’t known — questions about which doctors will accept MA (nationally, not just in NYS), pre-authorization, hospital acceptance, etc. So much uncertainty.

Some of the MLC people are suggesting that the $600 million in costs savings to the City — which is the entire amount the City spends on retiree health care! — will come from the subsidy that CMS will pay to the provider for administering Medicare benefits. But this is almost certainly not true. Medicare spends $2.9 billion on NYC retirees. The normal rate of the subsidy is 4%, which is about $120 million. So the writer explains where the rest of the savings will come from. It’s not a pretty picture.

City’s Plan Will Reduce Retiree Health Care by 24% A Research Note

Prepared by Leonard Rodberg, PhD, Professor Emeritus of Urban Studies, Queens College/ CUNY & Research Director, NY Metro Chap, Physicians for a National Health Program

Overview: New York City is about to switch the health insurance plan of all retired government workers from traditional public Medicare to a private Medicare Advantage plan. Under the City’s proposal, spending on health care will be reduced by 24%. The impact on retiree health could be harmful or deadly.

Employees of the City of New York, including such associated agencies as the City University of New York, receive their health benefits through employer-provided private insurance negotiated with the City employee unions. Like most Americans covered by private employer-based insurance, they look forward to the time when, upon retirement, they can move to the far less restrictive federal Medicare program.

Thus, upon their retirement, most City retirees join the Medicare program and look forward to its simplicity and reliability. This federal program provides basic medical coverage with few limitations, but it covers only 80% of the cost of outpatient care and requires copayments for inpatient (hospital) services. The City government, through contracts negotiated with its various employee unions, provides comprehensive coverage, called GHI Senior Care, which covers most out-of-pocket costs.

The City government is now seeking, through negotiations with the City employee unions, to end that program and require all retirees, if they want comprehensive coverage, to join a private Medicare Advantage program. (The term “Medicare Advantage” was created by the Congress in the Medicare Modernization Act of 2003. Previous version of this program had been called Medicare Managed Care and Medicare+Choice.) Medicare Advantage plans are private insurance plans funded by the federal Medicare program. They cover the same services as traditional public Medicare, plus some additional ones like gym memberships and some dental and hearing services, but they may impose additional rules, costs, and restrictions.

The City now spends $600 Million per year on retiree health benefits An agreement for health care savings signed in 2018 with the Municipal Labor Committee (MLC), representing the City employee unions, provided that in its third year (then 2020 but delayed to 2021 because of the pandemic) it would save the City $600 Million. The City is proposing to achieve these savings by moving its retirees to a Medicare Advantage plan like those that have been widely advertised to seniors since their creation in 2003.

We do not yet know the details of the plan the City will adopt. Even when information on the plan is finally released, important features of the plan (such as when prior approvals will be

required) will remain hidden behind the corporate wall of “proprietary information”. So, in the analysis that follows, we will use average features of Medicare Advantage plans to estimate the financial effects this change will have on retiree health care.

Currently, the Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that Medicare spends an average of $11,953 annually per enrollee in New York State. For the 245,000 Medicare enrollees that the City now has in its program, this amounts to a total of $2.9 Billion per year coming from the federal Medicare program. The City adds another $600 Million, so the current cost of providing health care to the City’s retirees is $3.5 Billion. (Note that, as expected, the City’s payment is about 20% of the total, reflecting the 20% average coinsurance required by the Medicare program.)

Under the City’s plan, all of the funding for retiree health care will come from the federal government. Because of Congressional support for the Medicare Advantage program, the federal government does pay Medicare Advantage plans more than the same care would cost in the traditional public Medicare program. These additional funds, a Medicare subsidy, has in the past been as large as 8-10%. However, according to the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC), Medicare currently pays to Medicare Advantage plans, per enrollee, 104% of what is spent by traditional Medicare. So we can estimate that,a total of whichever Medicare Advantage plan is chosen by the City and the MLC (assuming they do continue to go that route), the funds available to them will be about 104% of Medicare’s current spending on the City’s retirees, or $3.05 Billion.

However, not all of these funds will be available to pay for the delivery of health care. Private insurers providing Medicare Advantage plans spend considerable sums on internal administrative expenses or overhead. There is a widespread belief that the private sector is inherently more efficient than the public, government sector. However, the health care field is an exception to this general idea. Private insurance companies have much greater administrative expenses than do public agencies. They not only have to process claims, but they conduct complex prior approval processes in order to limit their spending on expensive treatments and procedures. They negotiate rates with physicians, hospitals, and other providers. They purchase extensive advertising and other marketing tools. They pay high salaries, often in the millions of dollars, to their administrators. And, of course, most of them are for-profit companies which typically make at least 5% profit on their overall revenues, or 20% or more on their actual expenses.

The Kaiser Family Foundation has estimated that Medicare Advantage plans have an average overhead expense of 14% of their total revenue. If the City’s plan is adopted, that will be a total of about $427 Million per year. So the funds available to pay for the delivery of health care will be $427 Million less than the $3.05 Billion the insurers receive from the federal government, or $2.62 Billion.

Before comparing this to current spending, we must note that the $600 Million that the City currently spends on supplemental coverage for its retirees is also spent through insurance companies. This means that a significant portion of its funds are actually spent on internal administrative overhead. We will use the same overhead figure, 14%, for this spending as for the Medicare Advantage plan (the same companies are generally involved.) So just 86%, or $516 Million, is actually available today to pay for the delivery of health care. Total spending on actual health care today is then $3.45 Billion per year, not the $3.5 Billion shown earlier.


Finally, the reduction in health care spending under the City’s plan will be 3.45 2.62 = 0.83, or $830 Million per year. This is 24% of what is currently spent on delivering health care to retirees. The following graph shows this result in visual form. The calculations are summarized in a table on the next page.

The insurance companies will claim that this reduction in spending is possible because they take such good care of their members that they remain healthier than they would be otherwise. There is no evidence, anywhere, of either such savings or of any activities that would lead to such savings. Instead, these “savings” – actually, these reductions in spending on health care are created by (1) the extensive use of deductibles and copays, which shift costs from the insurer to the patients; (2) the reduction in the use of health care services when patients, faced with financial barriers, avoid seeking care; (3) the requirements for prior authorization by the insurance company of expensive treatments and procedures, leading to denials and delays; and (4) paying doctors and hospitals less than traditional Medicare does. Together, they create spending reductions approaching a quarter of all health care spending.

How many patients will have their health worsened, or will die, as a result of this severe cut in spending on their health care? If the City’s plan is approved, only time will tell.


Financial Impact of the City’s Plan for a Shift to Medicare Advantage

Total Spending ($ Billion)

Spending on Health Care ($ Billion)

Reduction in Health Care Spending ($ Billion)


City Plan


City Plan

Medicare payment 2.93 2.93

Health care portion of Medicare payment 2.93 2.52

City payment 0.60

Health care portion of City payment 0.52

Medicare subsidy 0.12

Health care portion of Medicare subsidy 0.10

Total Spending 3.53 3.05

Spending on Health Care --> 3.45 2.62 0.83

Insurance company overhead 0.08 0.43

Total Spending 3.53 3.05 3.53 3.05



From:                  NYC Municipal Labor Committee


Rubenstein Communications

Kyle Sklerov / 212-380-3753




The Municipal Labor Committee votes to adopt a new program designed to help maintain premium-free health care for city retirees


New York, NY (July 14, 2021) - The MLC, which negotiates health benefits for all city workers, voted today to accept the bid of an alliance of Anthem, Blue Cross/Blue Shield and Emblem Health to create a new program designed to mirror — and in some cases improve upon — the GHI Senior Care Plan used by most retired city workers.

MLC Chair Harry Nespoli, president of the city’s Uniformed Sanitationmen’s Association, said “Under the new plan, NYC Medicare Advantage Plus, retirees will still have access to the same providers and hospitals that they now use, even as they are now entitled to increased coverage, and a cap on individual out-pocket-expenses for covered services.”

“Many families in the metropolitan area and across the country are paying thousands of dollars every year as their share of the costs of the health insurance that they get from their employers.  Maintaining our members’ access to premium-free health care is a key priority of the MLC, and today’s vote will help achieve that goal,” Mr. Nespoli added.

Medicare Advantage plans are designed to provide insurance for services that Medicare itself does not cover.

The creation of this custom group Medicare Advantage plan will allow the city and the MLC to tap into federal subsidies that have been unavailable to the current GHI Senior Care plan. The new plan is projected to produce up to $600 million in health savings per year.

All the savings from this new program will be devoted to the city’s Health Care Stabilization Fund.  That fund provides crucial support for individual unions’ welfare funds, which spend millions of dollars every year to subsidize member benefits for retirees and actives ranging from prescription drugs to dental/optical coverage as well as supporting other special programs.


Kyle Sklerov

Senior Vice President | Rubenstein

Worldwide Plaza | 825 Eighth Avenue | New York, NY 10019

212-843-8486 desk; 212-380-3753 cell |




  1. Hats off to the transparency of PSC-CUNY. Where is the list of the municipal unions with a spine? Nespoli has been drinking the Mulgrew Kool-Aid. In-service members, sit up and take notice...
    Mulgrew and henchmen consider teacher retirees disposable. You're next. Time to lay plans for the disposal of Mulgrew. Don't ever let him sign another contract on your behalf! You tick off the pay!

  2. Norm said it best: keep your Silver Sneakers Gift Horse Buy-out & let our Medicare alone!
    And yes rally with Thousands: Retiree Advantage modeled it in their "tour", now to build it...


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