Wednesday, July 11, 2012

Some Network UFT People to Join ATR Pool

While moving from office to office in my virtual rubber room, I encountered many network UFT employees who said their grants are not being renewed and they too will be joining the ATR pool. I hear this is all across the city. ---  Francesco Portelos
What about the higher ups in the networks? I bet that is why so many of them were being put in as principals. Typical. Union people go to ATR pool (maybe a lesson for people who jump at network jobs).

UPDATE:
I had to add some of the comments into this post in response to a network person who says network people are hired because they are exemplary educators. Sounds like E4E speak.

"... most of us were promoted for being exemplary educators."

Look, I know everybody's gotta eat, but your "promotions" were to fundamentally parasitic entities that are complicit in Bloomberg's assault on the schools and your fellow colleagues. And you're OK with that?


NYCDOEnuts has left a new comment on your post "Some Network UFT People to Join ATR Pool":

Michael Fiorillo for President!

Look, when my principal was removed two years ago, it wasn't the Sup that pulled the plug: it was the network. When my school was accused of suspending too many kids, it wasn't the Sup that said knock it off, it was the network. Don't tell me your group does't have a supervisory role. The only problem I see with Tweeheads is that they (read YOU) think that everyone else is dumb. If that "group-think character flaw" is taken away, you guys might actually be able to do some great work down there.

And to the other commenter, you must understand that there is no reliable way of ascertaining that you were ever a great educator. All we know is that you received an S. Why don't you come back after the APPR kicks in? We can put your talents to great show as a 'Master Teacher' in one of the 24?

We also know that GREAT educators stay in the classroom (oh and we know that you did not). It sounds more reasonable to conclude that you're well liked and that you interviewed well. And while these are traits I don't hold against people, it should be noted that when those same traits transfer to classroom teacher, Tweedheads run for the hills screaming 'halo effect!' 'halo effect!'.

One last thing to the network folks: There is absolutely no systematic accountability built into your jobs, is there? I mean if your schools do poorly, then you don't lose your job (the way almost 3,500 of MY colleagues did last month for 'doing poorly'), do you?

I mean, honestly, isn't that why this piece got you defensive enough to post a comment? 
fportelos (http://protectportelos.wordpress.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Some Network UFT People to Join ATR Pool":

OK, here is what I know about networks:
-They are a support group to a school in EVERY aspect. I mean from budget, to safety, to writing CEP that is supposed to be written by School Leadership Teams, to PD's to payroll etc.
-The principal in my school is horrible in that she mismanages money, doesn't discipline and just doesn't run the school properly...who supports all that???.....The CFN.
-The DOE/HR Director Andrew Gordon/My Principal/Network 211 made a lot of mistakes when it came to coming after and reassigning me. The biggest might have been moving me from Staten Island to 8201 Rockaway Blvd where I met and spoke to my principal's "support" group. That is like sending Jason Bourne to Langley!!

Read this post here and you will see what I am taking about. I emailed my principal from the Rubber Room basement only to hear Laura Kaiser, CFN 211 Director of Operations, yell on the phone [to my principal] "No..He (me) is not on the SLT...this is Harassment. Contact Legal! It's up to legal"

Then I asked the Payroll person about my FOIL findings where it shows my principal was double dipping and writing her own per session times in and I was told "You do not govern her! She governs you!" Actually the words used might have been "supervise". Principal Linda Hill used the same exact words as the network "It's in legal's hands." and "I govern you...you don't govern me."

Network Mentioned: http://protectportelos.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/national-teacher-appreciation-day-and-stuff/

Really, where is the press on these network scam(mers)?
How do you have a network office in Ozone Park "supporting" a school in Staten Island? Geography in NYC DOES matter. What fantasy world are these people living in? I guess Bloomberg figures everyone can helicopter over the traffic.


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11 comments:

  1. What exactly did these network people do?

    Do they have a pedagogical background?

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  2. I was saying this back in April! The NCLB waive asks the city no longer be counted as one continuous district. Instead, the days is collected along the separate geographic districts. As a result, the networks, which run across the city without regard to geography, are in the way. They have to be narrowed or removed in offer to bring the city within compliance to the data collection that comes with the waiver.
    Rumor: network people are leaving the city, or taking other jobs because they see the reorg that is, in. fact, coming. They are also paranoid about an ax falling sometime within the month of July.

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  3. Why is the union representing network employees? Network employees serve in both a support and supervisory role. It seems like a clear conflict of interest for the Union.

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    1. Networks act in no other role but support. We are not supervisors of schools, principals, or teachers. That is reserved solely for Superintendents. This all stems from NY State's lack of recognition of the network structure and only recognizing districts (which Superintendents remain in charge of)

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    2. Woah! Sorry I missed this! Exactly WHAT stems from NYS' lack of recognition of the network structure? Are you saying the run of ATRs from networks stems from NYS' lack of recognition? Does this mean they're downsizing? Are you saying "yes, they,re downsizing" What else might stem from it? Is anything else on the way? Seems like more than a little downsizing, no?

      Because what is that lack of recognition that you're talking about? Is it the waiver application? Are you folks pissed that SED dissed networks (in favor of SUPs) in the waiver application? Is their some other way SED failed to recognize the network structure?
      Look, don't go! Come back!!! I have so many more questions!!!! I promise I'll be polite!!

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  4. Network people were nearly all teachers, APs and/or principals. Some are still teachers and are in the UFT while others are education administrators and are in the CSA.

    You can check the license of anyone in NYS at this site: http://eservices.nysed.gov/teach/certhelp/Inquiry.do?Done.x=37&Done.y=18

    Don't make negative assumptions about network people - most of us were promoted for being exemplary educators.

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    1. You are telling us that Tweed people, where there is so little knowledge about what exemplary education is has hired exemplary educators and not people who suck up or careerists? License means nothing. How many years of teaching and in what conditions is what counts in the real world.

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  5. "... most of us were promoted for being exemplary educators."

    Look, I know everybody's gotta eat, but your "promotions" were to fundamentally parasitic entities that are complicit in Bloomberg's assault on the schools and your fellow colleagues. And you're OK with that?

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  6. Michael Fiorillo for President!

    Look, when my principal was removed two years ago, it wasn't the Sup that pulled the plug: it was the network. When my school was accused of suspending too many kids, it wasn't the Sup that said knock it off, it was the network. Don't tell me your group does't have a supervisory role. The only problem I see with Tweeheads is that they (read YOU) think that everyone else is dumb. If that "group-think character flaw" is taken away, you guys might actually be able to do some great work down there.

    And to the other commenter, you must understand that there is no reliable way of ascertaining that you were ever a great educator. All we know is that you received an S. Why don't you come back after the APPR kicks in? We can put your talents to great show as a 'Master Teacher' in one of the 24?

    We also know that GREAT educators stay in the classroom (oh and we know that you did not). It sounds more reasonable to conclude that you're well liked and that you interviewed well. And while these are traits I don't hold against people, it should be noted that when those same traits transfer to classroom teacher, Tweedheads run for the hills screaming 'halo effect!' 'halo effect!'.

    One last thing to the network folks: There is absolutely no systematic accountability built into your jobs, is there? I mean if your schools do poorly, then you don't lose your job (the way almost 3,500 of MY colleagues did last month for 'doing poorly'), do you?

    I mean, honestly, isn't that why this piece got you defensive enough to post a comment?

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  7. OK, here is what I know about networks:
    -They are a support group to a school in EVERY aspect. I mean from budget, to safety, to writing CEP that is supposed to be written by School Leadership Teams, to PD's to payroll etc.
    -The principal in my school is horrible in that she mismanages money, doesn't discipline and just doesn't run the school properly...who supports all that???.....The CFN.
    -The DOE/HR Director Andrew Gordon/My Principal/Network 211 made a lot of mistakes when it came to coming after and reassigning me. The biggest might have been moving me from Staten Island to 8201 Rockaway Blvd where I met and spoke to my principal's "support" group. That is like sending Jason Bourne to Langley!!

    Read this post here and you will see what I am taking about. I emailed my principal from the Rubber Room basement only to hear Laura Kaiser, CFN 211 Director of Operations, yell on the phone [to my principal] "No..He (me) is not on the SLT...this is Harassment. Contact Legal! It's up to legal"

    Then I asked the Payroll person about my FOIL findings where it shows my principal was double dipping and writing her own per session times in and I was told "You do not govern her! She governs you!" Actually the words used might have been "supervise". Principal Linda Hill used the same exact words as the network "It's in legal's hands." and "I govern you...you don't govern me."

    Network Mentioned: http://protectportelos.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/national-teacher-appreciation-day-and-stuff/

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    1. I just want to add that I'm not saying all network people are "bad". I met a lot of great people at 8201 Rockaway Blvd. I feel bad that they will go from creating great PD's to now bouncing from school to school as ATRs.

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